has India really improved much after independance?

it has been sixty yearz since our country gained indepence...bt in comparision to other nations in the league....but how much have things really changed?
1.millions are till below poverty line
2.uneducation is rampant
3.we are still shackled in old age customs and caste differences still loom large in many fronts
4.Japan too sufferered crashing losses in WW2 bt today it is a forerunner in the sphere of techological development bt we r still declared a developing nation...!
5.governmental bodies still register a lack of proffesionalism n mismanagement
6..female infanticide is a huge issue still
7.incidents of witch burning,dowry deaths,child marriage are still common enough
8.most villages in our country have yet to receive electricity n running water
............the list can simply go on....

India is today a developing country.India will transform into a developed nation by 2020, using technology as a tool.INDIA has developed a lot with growing economy and strong internal market.Software and pharma products have shown the lead.Critical technologies and strategic industries
witnessed the growth in nuclear technology, space technology and
defence technology.The number of small-scale units has increased from
an estimated 0.87 million units in the year 1980-81 to over 3 million
in the year 2000.

India has developed a lot in these 60 years.we always see america as a standard then u must know that after america got independence ,it took many years to become a developed country

yes, I completely agree with Soumava.... India has indeed developed at
a very fast pace and that is commendable...Indians have Talent,
Modesty, Moral values....and what not...

Moreover the fundamental rights that we enjoy in our country are a great treasure we cherish....

OK, there ARE many problems still on India's way to becoming a
developed nation...but in just 60 yrs whatever it has acheived cannot
be neglected....

Rather than just cribbing and brooding about what India has not been
able to acheive, all of us, the youth, should do something for the
nation!!!!

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India has indeed developed at
a very fast pace and that is commendable...Indians have Talent,
Modesty, Moral values....and what not...

Well if you call development a mere increase in GDP values..then yes..India has actually developed! But if you talk about development in the real sense, do you think we have come a far way from where we were 60 years before??

The talent you talk about wants to go out of this country the very instant they get a chance, moral values have long been forgotten..at least by the politicians of our country who are the so-called runners of our country...modesty?? all we can do today is boast about the increasing per capita GDP and teh GDP values...and slip away when we are ranked 123 out of 156 countries in terms of human development!!! If you call not talking about our failures modesty..then yes..we are modest!!!

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Moreover the fundamental rights that we enjoy in our country are a great treasure we cherish....

fundamental rights??? do you think we enjoy them the way we should??

education is a fundamental right, but are we getting any??

I don't say we have gone down the ladder of development, but i also can't say that we have climbed it either!! we are where we were...if we look at a broader definition of development!!

BUt...i completely agree with your point about not cribbing and doing something and making a difference...i personally am trying to do whatever i can (and have the time to..unfortunately..sobsob!!), in the very little way possible...i hope other's join in too cause it's the droplets that make the ocean!

somya.gupta wrote:

Rather than just cribbing and brooding about what India has not been
able to acheive, all of us, the youth, should do something for the
nation!!!!

First i agree with somya in this point!!! Bout the latter part
Lets be more specific here.. I should do something!!!!

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The talent you talk about wants to go out of
this country the very instant they get a chance, moral values have long
been forgotten..at least by the politicians of our country who are the
so-called runners of our country...modesty?? all we can do today is
boast about the increasing per capita GDP and teh GDP values...and slip
away when we are ranked 123 out of 156 countries in terms of human
development!!! If you call not talking about our failures modesty..then
yes..we are modest!!!

ahh...u talk about Brain Drain...so may i tell u that although brain
drain 'was' a big problem....but if u read newspapers and articles, u'l
get to know that more and more NRIs are turning back to their
motherland...

with India gaining the attention of the world for corporate markets,
bussiness establishments...it is really catching the eye of big
companies...and hence employment generation and other such problems are
not sooo big as they used to be earlier...and you talk of moral
values...here I wud just like to say...we are wayyy better than those
in the other countries...

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fundamental rights??? do you think we enjoy them the way we should??



education is a fundamental right, but are we getting any??

ya , to this i'd say that first and the most inportant of all, we enjoy
the right to Freedom of Speech....and really thats something...

moreover, about ur question on 'right to education'...the literacy rate
in our country is on the rise....and it is 'we' people who can
contribute to it in our own way by adopting the policy of 'each one
teach one...' have we done it.....

srimoyi wrote:

it has been sixty yearz since our country gained indepence...bt in comparision to other nations in the league....but how much have things really changed?
1.millions are till below poverty line
2.uneducation is rampant
3.we are still shackled in old age customs and caste differences still loom large in many fronts
4.Japan too sufferered crashing losses in WW2 bt today it is a forerunner in the sphere of techological development bt we r still declared a developing nation...!
5.governmental bodies still register a lack of proffesionalism n mismanagement
6..female infanticide is a huge issue still
7.incidents of witch burning,dowry deaths,child marriage are still common enough
8.most villages in our country have yet to receive electricity n running water
............the list can simply go on....

I will answer that very simply in one line if you wish...In relation to 60 years before, we have obviously improved. But yeah if we look in relative terms, we have improved a lot.

And the fact about Japan, not many people know, but it does not have to spend any money on denfence. Its Article 9 of its Constitution, states that it cannot built defences for atacking purposes, due to its part in the WW2. Therefore, it is USA which spends on Japan's defence, leaving Japan fere to develop the country and its economy. Whereas, India, has had to fight three wars and a few battles here and there along with the battle against terrorism, and natural calamities added, result in a higher burden on the country's finances.

Governmental bodies have come a long way. e.g. Earlier it used to take months to start a new company, giving bribes and stuff like that, but e-governance in many spheres has resulted in more transparency and quicker response.

My opinion is a rather tough one. Instead of saying all this we say, we could go and help the country in our own way. How many of you actually tell your parents to stop following stupid superstitions, how many of you actually stay away from bribes, how many of you want to go directly into politics and improve the situation. Because it is easier said than done.

So we should be proud of what our country has achieved in such a short time, given all the difficulties. (Also Japan at the end of WW2 was better placed than us, as they did not have England as their rulers...)

@ somya

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and you talk of moral
values...here I wud just like to say...we are wayyy better than those
in the other countries...

you tell me somya what is the point of comparing yourself to the other countries when you haven't been taught the same moral values as them....compare yourself with the India 100 years before...are we morally ahead of what we were then?? or have we gone down?? look at our politicians..for them Morals are what they talk of in their speeches and forget as easily as they forget their promises...forget politicians...talk about the normal citizens of the country...do you think that if someone finds a hundred rupee note on the road, he'd take the pains of finding out who the owner is??? he'll quietly keep it in his pocket, satifying his conscience by saying 'jiski kismat main hota hai, usi ko milta hai'.....

corruption, plagiarism, disrespect for elders was nt what we were taught by our forefathers...bt still it prevails...and you say we are better off?? just because in some other countries it is morally correct to leave their parents once the child turns 18 and live alone, is it correct to do that in india too?? were these our morals??


@ rishabh

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being a developed country doesn't really come with developments in technology......the common sense of people hav 2 get developed first

absolutely....wat is the point of calling yourself developed when you can't even decide on one single definition of development....

what is the point of calling yourself developed when you don't know what development brings with it....

what is the point of calling yourself developed when the crime rate is still soaring high (and please don't tell me that UP reported a lowering in crome rates since mayawati came into power, cause this is not absolute decrease but just underreporting!!)....

what is the point of calling yourself developed when we can't use our rights properly and in the right way...

what is the point of calling yourself developed when you use the freedom of speech given to you to abuse others...

Development is an extremely wide term and 'for sure' cannot be reflected just through technological advancement and GDP levels....it encompasses a lot more than can be sen with the naked eye!!

p.s. am studying development as a paper this year and trust me, there is no way that technological advancement be termed development!!

well as we r talking abt moral values...yess indya does call itself morally uplifted...den pray y do we still have female foeticide ? y do ppl still raise n eyebrow wen a woman tries to step in2 a man's shoe? y do we estrange our aged folks in ashrams n hospitals? y do we have child marriage n dowry deaths ?y r children abused?y do we have corruption n bribery?
ppl make a bigg issue if a certain american kisses an indyan actress...wen we hv bigger problems to sort in our own backyards..?some ppl create a ruckus if we celebrate certain "western" festivals..wen we cud do btr if we concentrate on changing our own social dogmas....

we alwayz tend to gloat our past glories....y not concentrate on on improving our future??

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den pray y do we still have female foeticide ? y do ppl still raise n eyebrow wen a woman tries to step in2 a man's shoe? y do we estrange our aged folks in ashrams n hospitals? y do we have child marriage n dowry deaths ?y r children abused?y do we have corruption n bribery?

at last someone who realises what lies beneath the so called technological glories and achievements....we have to maek sure taht these fake advancements don't fool us into believing that we have developed...we may be looked upon as the upcoming superpower by 2020, but what use is this power when we can't get things right in our own country??

okay...therez no denying the fact that the points mentioned by srimoyi
and nikhita suggest that our country is far from calling itself a
morally strong country.....

However, here one must realize not everything can be perfect! One may
argue that "its only when we aim for perfection can we become efficient
enough to progress if not with "the" perfection, but surely smwhere
near it"....But still, are we right in generalizing the fact that
morality has been wiped out of the nation?? yes, no doubt, corruption
and beaurocracy are prevelent in India...and that "is" a serious
concern....but can we label every Indian as corrupt???

Now have we so easily forgotten the time when the Tsunami struck??? The
time when whole of the nation came forward for helping the
post-disaster victims??? We talk about the narmada dam being built and
the poor being robbed off their shelters...but then are there no Medha
Patkars to fight for their rights???.....

Or lets talk at a more general level....Doesnt any new "Lage Raho munna
bhai" become a favourite among the youth??? and doesnt
GANDHIGIRI...become a new catch-word instantaneously????....

Although we cant forget about the negatives of the country when we aim
to become a developed nation....but "just" thinking about the negatives
wont really lead us anywhere...a pessimistic attitude is not what India
requires at this stage....

moreover, When we compare the India of the present, with India of the
past.....isnt the change, the development obvious??? ya the
"development!!" Sati system has been abolished, the moratlity rate has
been on a constant decline, the literacy rate is on the rise,....being
the Most populated country of the world...with far behind at 7th
position in terms of land, we are bound to face many hurdles in the
path of progress....but we cant say that India "hasn't" developed! no
never!

agreed somya...totally agreed...india HAS developed!!! andi was in no ways adoptign a pessimistic attitude, i was only pointing out to the fact that these are the problems that still need to be dealt with if we want to call ourselves developed.....

heyy I din mean that for you...it was just a generalized statement that
a negative attitude cant lead us anywhere....hope u weren't offended...

Ya I totally agree with your point...We are still way behind the
threshold of calling ourselves a developed nation...but still we cant
forget what all we HAVE acheived in the past 60 years...

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heyy I din mean that for you...it was just a generalized statement that
a negative attitude cant lead us anywhere....hope u weren't offended...

no ways somya...i wasn't offended at all..in fact this one was one of the most amzing, longest and interesting discussion i've ever had on C18..it feels great to know that people still think about the country....and are not put off by the corrupt practices prevalent these days!!