Women provoke men!!!!

hmm......i dont think we can give an ansewr to this question.....basically i'd say it is neither a question nor an answer.....its a problem.....

hey. i agree with u guys that rape is a
crime and women cant be held responsible for it. however, i wld like ur
comments on the statistic brandied abt by most supporters of the hijab that countries
like iran have considerably lower instances of rape and molestation than say
usa or uk. There are a million counters but which one comes to ur mind?

abhinavverma wrote:

hey. i agree with u guys that rape is a
crime and women cant be held responsible for it. however, i wld like ur
comments on the statistic brandied abt by most supporters of the hijab that countries
like iran have considerably lower instances of rape and molestation than say
usa or uk. There are a million counters but which one comes to ur mind?

So what? Even if the statistics are true, I would prefer a higher number of rapes to all women living [scarcely] under a burqa.

A rape is a one time aggression against a person's personal space, while wearing a hijab is a constant reminder of a woman's "lower" status than men, and of women being treated just as sex objects, as if there are no other dimensions to their personality. Taking away the freedom to dress, and to force people into wearing something as shockingly unaesthetic and restrictive as the hijab, over a period of time, is probably a worse crime than rape.

well in this case we hv to choose the lesser of the two evils....
i dnt agree tht rape is a one time aggression....
the physical wounds may dissappear aftr a while....the mental pain lives throughout life....

@ Ritwik.
Sickness does have a cure. Its not that sick minds cant be treated. Im not advocating the public castration, NOR opposing it but just commenting upon the sickness part.

Shock therapy works in curing sickness. Maybe, stringent punitive action can act as a shock for those sick minds and cure them.

there, there guys. it's really nice of Ritwik to choose a lesser evil for women.but we choose to interpret the burkha as a reminder of their lower status in the society.many educated women may choose to interpret it as their belief in their religion

we can't choose lesser evils for women sitting here.
personally i feel something really evil should be done to rapists.
because people these days take the law very lightly,everybody knows u can get away with any thing may it b jumping a red light,murder,rape.there is no fear whatsoever.

well castration in public is no soluyion..
hvng a weapon is evn more dangerous....it cn be used against u....
pepper sprays cn be a solution....bt smthng needs to be done to improve the mentality of the rapists....

ya sumthing needs to be done in terms of guidance and all but first fear, should b instilled,among people. probably some real harsh puishment,or strict rules.things won't work now, without people fearing the law.

yo.. i like da topic... lemme tell ya somethin which is true...k.. i was in boys hostel n wen i was in 8th wen one of my friend was sexually molested by a senior who we neva thot wud do such sort of things...ma friend can neva provoke dat guy rt... so its all da desperation n to tell ya somethin i hate des ppl n da only treatment is life imprsonment or hand dem to ppl we will decide abt it.... all da girls out here n everywhere .. its da independent world so no one needs to b scared.. we need to fight bak.. wear wht ya feel like ... peace

samridhi wrote:

there, there guys. it's really nice of Ritwik to choose a lesser evil for women.but we choose to interpret the burkha as a reminder of their lower status in the society.many educated women may choose to interpret it as their belief in their religion

A clarification: I never mentioned anything about lesser evils. That was Ankit Govil and not me.

I don't have a problem with people dressing the way they see fit of their own free will. What I do have a problem is with the mandatory imposition of any dress code [be it a burqa or otherwise] on society or a certain section thereof.

no ritwik i just checked yours is the 12 comment,pls see that.

This is what I had posted:

Quote :

So what? Even if the statistics are true, I would prefer a higher number of rapes to all women living [scarcely] under a burqa.

A rape is a one time aggression against a person's personal space, while wearing a hijab is a constant reminder of a woman's "lower" status than men, and of women being treated just as sex objects, as if there are no other dimensions to their personality. Taking away the freedom to dress, and to force people into wearing something as shockingly unaesthetic and restrictive as the hijab, over a period of time, is probably a worse crime than rape.

Maybe you are talking about the "is probably a worse crime than rape" bit

If so, then I stand by what I had said.

this topic is well thought n posts have been interesting.accordin 2 me there r many aspects.
1)there is no denying that there are frustrated freaks out there.some who r sick n some with who r really desperate.only way to deal with them is the strictest punishment.
2)for the ladies i am sorry to state that this world is not ur utopian one where you might wear anythin u like n not get noticed.first things first people wear such stuff to get noticed n when u do get noticed u can not expect everyone to behave in the manner in which u think is right.there r many kinds f weirdos out there,so u they might act in a disgraceful manner.
3)until the time our country gets out of this transitional phase where crime in all forms is rampant n goes unpunished women should strike a balance whether they like it or not.expecting you all to be dressed in salwar all da time is absurd but then there r boundaries as of now in india if u want to avoid undue attention from sickos.
in no way am i claimin that women in salwar;s r not raped but in cities a fraction of the problem is attire!!!

i feel...

in our country 'sex' is over-rated...

take sex as both...gender as well...

true .. i go wid sahil....

adi there r many societies where women can wear nething, and not be noticed. so it's not utopian. but i agree with u that indians are kinda stuk up!
but i would like to point out that all women take precautions.and are more or less aware of what to wear where!

i dun agree to that samridhi...girls these days are so hell bent about 'fashion' that they tend to forget what to wear where....and i am pretty sure that most of us here would agree to this....

so who r u blaming nikhita?

i am not blaming neone samridhi...i am just telling you that it's not the case that girls are conscious about what they are wearing where....i mean...am not saying that there should be 'rules' about whjat to wear where...but definitely as you said that one should be 'aware ' of what to wear where....which is not happening these days...it hink this 'fashion consciousness' is taking over the awareness!!

well riju, your comments soo dont make sense and u still keep commenting...as in get a life dude...wassup with these nonsensical posts?...try n make some sense at least...fer heavens sake...