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"I think the politics of the country has taken a turn and the caste-based regional parties have gathered momentum of their own. We (mainstream political parties) are at a disadvantage. The Congress is not the first choice but there is the profound image of the main parties and once the regional politics plays itself out, we will be the preferred choice of the people."
These are the words of political wisdom that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh parted with when asked to comment on the perception of the Congress workers that though the prime minister is incorruptible, what he is doing is not helping them to improve the party's electoral prospects in any state.
He was speaking at a tea party arranged at his 7, Race Course Road, residence with New Delhi-based Indian women journalists.
During the course of the evening, it showed that Dr Singh has been in power for three years and how!
He was unusually confident, never hesitating to take answer awkward questions and sometime he was even uncharacteristically aggressive.
It was as though he was acutely aware that he has only two years left to leave a mark on the pages of history.
As the meeting began, Dr Singh in quite a bureaucratic manner dished out the usual statistics and details of the achievement of his government. But, once the interaction started, he dropped his babu image. Three years in power seemed to have changed him, at last. Unlike in the past, there was no hesitation to open up or share.
About the alleged involvement of Indians in the recent terror plot that has been detected in the United Kingdom, Dr Singh said he had spoken to his British counterpart Gordon Brown. He said India has offered cooperation in the terror probe.
He said when he saw crying mothers (of the arrested Indian accused) on television he could not sleep. Dr Singh made special attempts to make the media women understand that racial profiling of the accused should be avoided.
He said "Labeling Indians and Pakistanis as terrorists is avoidable. No hasty conclusions should be drawn on whether the arrested Indians are guilty."
On some issues, particularly related to industry and growth prospects, he spoke like a man in a hurry. With a smile on his face, he was revealing whatever he has done sitting in prime minister's chair.
His formal and informal talks of more than 60 minutes gave the impression that he is trying to inject inside the mammoth Indian administrative infrastructure some kind of sense and urgency (not necessarily successfully) with his technical intellect of finance and management and his experience as a government servant.
He said his government is seriously investing in health and education and the thrust of his remaining two years will be on agriculture.
He added that very soon, the national policy on food security will be formed and he assured that he is aware of the issues related to food imports.
One could read that he is well aware about his own shortcomings and his government's failures. But he didn't give any idea how he will overcome those serious shortcomings in the coming two years.
When asked about the lack of coordination between his government and the Congress he responded, "Yes, we require the introspection. The division between the party and government has not been worked out."
But, he also said that the so-called differences between his office and Sonia Gandhi's office are just media hype. For the last three years, the two meet every week and there are no serious issues pending between them, he said.
When asked about the amount of money the government will have to pay to the accused of Bofors case Ottavio Quattrocchi he said, "Whatever the Court has asked (India will pay.) What option do we have?"
He also gave lots of newsy insights into the current affairs.
Like; when asked about the controversy related to the United States' nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Nimitz, he said he was unaware of its arrival and he came to know only when he read it in the newspapers. He said such ships have been visiting our ports from many other countries including China and France [Images].
It was quite a surprise when he subtly and not-so-subtly criticised the leader of the opposition L K Advani, Vice President and presidential Bhairon Singh Shekhawat and even indirectly took a dig at President Abdul Kalam.
In a reply to a question he said, "Look what he says about me! The kind of language Advani is using is not healthy for democracy."
In reply to a question regarding the controversy related to Presidential candidate Pratibha Patil, not only did he strongly defend her, but also said that this tea-party at his invitation should be considered as a celebration for having the first woman president in the country!
For those who think Dr Singh is an apolitical man, this is the time to have a rethink.
He defended Patil as only a seasoned Congressman could.
He said that the Opposition was talking about the suicide note by an employee against some member of Patil's family but in Gujarat after Haren Pandya's murder his wife and father had issued much more serious allegations when L K Advani was the Home Minister. What was the action taken, he asked?
About the other allegations of financial irregularities against Patil, he said with conviction that in Maharashtra almost all politicians open a co-operative bank, higher education institutes and Sugar mills to enter politics and get established. "Otherwise they can't make any headway," he said.
His debatable remarks suggested that almost all the political leaders in Maharashtra have these institutes. He also said that these are commercial institutions.
Probably, Dr Singh implied that since these are commercial ventures its failures should not be morally binding to politicians.
One of his most aggressive comments was reserved for Vice President Shekhawat.
While defending Patil he quipped: "All his life Bhairon Singh Shekhawat was in the BJP, but now he is an independent candidate."
He argued that in the political spectrum more parties are supporting the Congress than the BJP and that the Congress has learnt its lessons of managing coalition politics.
He implied that Shekhawat was contesting as an independent just to get more support and that it showed the BJP was isolated in Indian politics.
He said the Congress is a newcomer in managing coalition government but it has done well, so far.
About the relation between the Congress and the Left parties, he said both have been coexisting and cohabiting together for the past three years and will approach the coming years with that experience.
When asked about some files that have been returned by President Kalam related to the appointment of judges, he said, "I need a publicist too."
There is a perception that the news of the return of the files have been leaked from the Rashtrapati Bhavan
He, however, confirmed that he had sent some files to the law ministry and added, "I am also working."
About the Indo-Pak dialogue process he reiterated his stand.
He said the peace process has slowed down because of the situation in Pakistan.
"The dialogue has slowed down, not because of us, but because of the situation in Pakistan," he said.
Without mentioning the events of Islamabad's Lal Masjid, he said, "The dangers of fundamentalism are now being realised in that country. Fundamentalism is perverse and dangerous to any society. Pakistan is seeing terrorism for the first time."
Describing terrorism as a "scourge", Dr Singh said, "Terrorism is a common enemy. It is a menace. We are dealing with it. It is a difficult situation. I understand what is happening (in Pakistan)," he said.
Twice, he said the Indo-Pak talks have never been so wide-ranging, serious and intensive in the history of the two countries. "We can't say we have a solution but we have made progress on all aspects of relations (with Pakistan)," he informed.
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plz give comments
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Were you part of the delegation that met the PM ?
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noooooo but i wish i could be
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this meeting was more like a propaganda meet for the congress. there is abrilliant article in today's Sunday Express bt Tavleen Singh about Manmohan Singh's comments
"He said when he saw crying mothers (of the arrested Indian accused) on television he could not sleep"

Has he ever lost sleep over the hundreds of people who died died in the mumbai train blasta that took place an year back?

i had a lot of respect for Manmohan Singh because of his excellent academic qualifications, his stint as the Governor of teh RBI, what he did in his earlier stint as the FM... and in fact for his humble and honest look.
by making such comments, he is undoing his own good work
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you are write....
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vaibhav..will you stop criticising congress??ok..do you or your party cry for thousands of muslims murdered during gujarat roits?well I am sure your party doesnt pay any heed to it..because they are the one responsible for it..

We as voters do not have umpteen no. of options.keeping this thing in mind we should demarcate between right and wrong.@ vaibhava--(your)Right is always wrong..It is very easy to criticise the ruling party,most of the people are mere spectators.they just know how to talk (with half knowledge) ..
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there we go again.....
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so, 'my party' now, is it?
i never said that! rememeber that

Does the Congress cry over the Sikhs it killed after Indira gandhi's assassination? and even before it! that was organised revenge.
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I never said that.I do criticise MY PARTY for that..but what about those idiots..custodians of bhartiya sanskiriti??hypocraites...I dont justify 84 roits..there was a political reason behind it.they didnt sponsor roit on their own..but BJP has just one problem---MUSLIMS and bhrast hoti hui bhartiya sanskriti...they think they will build temples and gather support...
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Get ur facts right madam, Congress did sponsor those riots just like u say Modi sponsored the Gujarat riots. the people systematicaly attacked Sikh households, they had the EC issued lists in their hands with which they identified them.

And believe me, u need to read bout those "hypocraites", as u call them. Maybe you will soften up a bit.
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Vaibahava....i never defend congress the way you defend "..."i dont want to mention that again...but that was against INDIRA GANDHI's Assassination.she herself didnt sponsor it..ok...infact when she was told by his Intelligence team that his sikh bodyguard would assassinate her and she should change his body guard,she refused..keeping country's integrity in mind...and we cannot compare the two roits..bhajapais have sponsored roits in bombay too...and it was against muslims again (their sworn enemies)..
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The basic difference btw congress and BJP is that congresis never pin point a particular commnity like bhajapais..and have you ever thought..the same UPA regime(with Mrs.Sonia Gandhi as its prez)has sellected Dr.Manmohan Singh (a sikh) and Joginder Jaswant Singh(again a sikh) as PM and army chief respectively..
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choosing the PM and the ARMY CHIEF has made all teh difference pragya...now they are puppets in her hands!!
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niks that was for vaibhava(the one who loves to defend every act of BJAPAIS)
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well you know all of them chose to remain tight liped over heinious deeds of the right wing..
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but why?? that's what my question is....when they are representatives of the country, chosen by thw country men, they SHOULD have reacted and not remained tight lipped!!

and yea guys, we as the educated youth of teh country should defend what's right and what's wrong...and not stick to the congress or teh Bhajpai's!!
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niks..see as a responsible citizen we shoud cast our vote during elections.so It's really very important to have a look at history of any party..We should vote th most competent candidate..
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i'll tell you one thing pragya...there are times when a good candidate has nowhere to go but to resort to one of these stupid parties in order to come into power. You temme, if this is happening at the student level (you totally know aaditya dar's and united student's story) then what would be the situation at the national level...i know if sumone's good then he/ she should contest independedntly...but with corruption soaring heights day by day, we have to sometimes use these parties as a ladder....history of a party doesn;t necessarily imply to their candidates too na...

and yea..teh most competent candidate might be with the bhajpai's...would you nt vote for him just because he is from BJP? or u will just like to satisfy yourself by saying that since teh parties history is bad, he can't be good?
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thats true..but if we see our county's future..we have to choose such a parry which doesnt discriminate btw hindus and muslims...right!!!
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how do u know taht sum party taht is presently not discriminating won't do that in teh future too???? they haven;t signed a bond or sumthing...
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MY dear Pragya, where in any of my post across the topics have I defended teh BJP or teh Right wing for deeds they have committed as u proclaim so vociferously? Its rather you who is defending Congress! Any objective reader would testify to this im sure.

And I said it before also, that i suport a candidate rather han a party. In the only elections i have voted in, i chose to vote for the congress candidate because i knew his accomplishments! I think that will give you some food for thought!

As for the PM and the Army chief being Sikhs, ever heard of something called Appeasement??? (and BTW, Sonia Gandhi did not chose the Army Chief)
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I didnt say sonia gandhi appointed JJ Singh...but not to forget its under UPA regime that JJ Singh was appointed..and as far as manmohan singh is concerned..do you think sonia had any other option??it was not appeasement but his competence..and I am saying again..I do talk about negative aspects of Congress Rule...

by the way...If you were to choose btw.ADVANI and MANMOHAN (as PM) what would you have done??
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well if it was so much about competence, then why isn't she letting him show his competence?????

and if i was to choose betwen advani and manmohan singh, i'd definitely choose Manmohan Singh just for teh reason you said above...COMPETENCE!!! hoping..that he might just decide to use his own brains and not act as a puppet in that italian doll's hands!!
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Same goes for me, I respected Manmohan Singh immensely. Would have definitely chosen him, but as niki says, if he acted according to his intellect and did things which according to an economist are good for the country rather than things which are good for his party and Madam ji
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