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PostSubject: Debating In Your University/College   Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:31 am

Yeah well since I am myself a debator at the DU level, and am quiet known now in the DU debating circle, I think that someone whould start a thread with this major activity of any campus.

I have had the opportunity to meet with debators from Banglore, Kokatta and other cities (not Mumbai though). All Law colleges from the above cities take part in debating.

So if anyone on this site is also a debator and/or is on their college debatiing society/team, then I would like to have an intellectual discussion with him Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:26 pm

well..well..well..now here's a topic that captured my attention right away..debating is one of my major passions..Im from Presidency college and spent the first two years of my college life participating in 3 or 4 debates every month..now iv been chained to my books..i participated in a couple of debates in senior high school and then went crazy in college..my city has an amazing debating atmosphere and my college is the one where the original Argumentative Indian once studied..so it's in my arteries i guess..we do not have a team as such in r college..we're all greedy pigs when it comes to debating(with me heading the pack)..and its a first come first serve policy..hehe..but there hasnt been any bloodshed so far..ive been left to cool my heels now n concentrate on my studies..so a virtual debate is jst what i'm looking for.
oh and btw im not a 'him'..im a 'her'..if that's ok wit u then let the games begin!
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:53 pm

lol..online debating would be fun, but that depends on what the campus18 staff thinks. I've particiapted in some virtual debates, but i love the real ones, where you can earn loads and loads of money Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:58 pm

yeah ive heard about the delhi debates being a source of livelihood for many..not mch money in kolkata debates tho..jst lots of certificates and fancy trophies..only two of the debates ive been to had cash prizes..anyway..im waiting for yor intellectual discussion to begin..start a topic..ill follow..bt before that giv me the names and a lil background of the top three debates that uve won..yor best victories in yor opinion..it's important to assess the competition before the duel begins..Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:01 pm

HEY GUYS...We can call this the CAMPUS18 Fresher's debate...wat say arjun????
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:37 pm

ah! so somebody really wants to get into debates on a virtual campus....hmmm gr8 thinkin dude bt nt quite impressive to catch attention.......lolz
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:41 pm

thats a nice idea..nikhita..i love debating too..
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:45 pm

vatsal..it's not about catchign attention, but doing what u feel like!!

avin...thankoo thankoo...
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:58 pm

challo koi gal nai kudiye bt m alwyz here as a disturbing element in all ur debates ovr here...."bao bao"
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:09 am

u can be the interjector
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:21 am

hmmmm.......dream on dude

m prepared Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:33 pm

umm...a campus18 freshers debate would mean that i cant participate Sad

lolz...but yeah we can have one online debate Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:40 pm

y not...we all are fresher's here yaar...first debate here...so...
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:41 pm

ah then its okay...i would love to do a virtual debate..will help me practice for my debates....

(if only we could arrange for some money...Smile )
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:38 pm

errr...n amidst all this banter..im still waiting for a topic..arjun start somethng!
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:46 pm

Arjun i'd recommend u start a new thread n lets not spoil this..
something like "Debate:_________" here we can suggest topics or something
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:44 pm

a debate has to be very organised if it has to be a virtual debate....

If anyone wants....i will post the rules in th next post, cause they are too large and need some editing Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:53 pm

1. Team Sizes


1.a. Each house shall have a debating team that shall consist of 3 people. There can also be researcher on a team, about 1-2 more people. However, only 3 debaters are required as each side must make 3 arguments for their position, and only three.




2. Structure of Debates


2.a. The Judge will open a debate thread which shall have the following structure to its title:


”Debate 1: Team A Vs Team B”

What can be ascertained from this title is that this debate is the
first of the season between the two teams, and that Team A are
providing the proposition, and Team B the opposition. The judge
decides who argues what position by a coin toss. This post shall be set
up one week in advance to provide each team enough time to communicate
with their research team if they have one, or research for themselves
on the topic and organize their arguments together.



2.b. Once the one week has passed and the debaters given enough
time to get their arguments ready, each appointed team captain has 24
hours to post their team roster. For example:


Debaters:

Mary-Ann – First Argument


Joey – Second Argument


Ian – Third Argument



Reserve Debate bench:


Anthony


Roxanne


Kieran



2.c. The reserve bench may be called upon to post in the absence of
a debater.


2.d. Once the 24 hours for the posting of rosters is over the
Proposition team has 48 hours in which to post their first argument which shall be outlining their whole proposition along with a case structure. The opposition team
has 48 hours from that post to post their own ifirst argument on the same lines.
Therefore, the structure would look
like so:




2.e. Judges opening post – 1 week until:


Proposition Team’s Roster – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:


Opposition Team’s Roster – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:





Proposition Team’s First Argument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:

Opposition Team’s First Agrument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:


Proposition Team’s Second Argument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:

Opposition Team’s Second Agrument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:



Proposition Team’s Third Argument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:

Opposition Team’s Third Agrument – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:



Proposition Team’s Concluding Post – once posted, 48 hour time limit for:


Opposition Team’s Concluding Post




2.f. Once this is complete the thread shall be closed for the judge to do the scores and decide which team won the debate.






3. Word Limits.

3.a. To mimic the time limit restraints one would encounter were we
to debate in reality, a maximum of 2000 words. For every 100 words over
that limit the debater shall incur a 1 point penalty.
There shall also be a minimum requirement of 500 words far a post to be quialified as an argument. For the conclusion, the maximum word limit is 1000, while the minimum is 250 words.



5. Judging and Scoring

5.a. The goal of the debater to someone else that your way of
looking at something is the most correct. You will be judged on how
effectively you do this.




5.b. Quotes

You may use quotes to illustrate your points. Using quotations is not necessary. It can be used when deemed necessary, however, don’t quote just for the sake of quoting. Make
sure you explain what your quote means and how you interpret it and
your point connects to the topic. Don’t leave any room for doubt. Do
not over quote. One very well developed point with a relevant quote
will earn you more points than 5 quotes haphazardly thrown into your
argument.




5.c. Conciseness, relevance and effectiveness

Set your argument up in a logical order. Don’t jump around on your
points; once you state something go on to support it before moving onto
the next point. Make sure it all flows together, tell us what you
believe and then prove it. Don’t jump around on your points; once you
state something go on to support it before moving onto the next point.
Reiteration is good, but do not constantly repeat what you have already
said just to reach the word maximum. You can spend your time more
efficiently elsewhere – developing another point, finding another
rebuttal etc – so don’t waste your time. Do not waste time explaining
something that is blaringly obvious and that everyone knows.




5.d. Rebuttals

Rebuttals are a required part of a debators argument. You MUST post rebuttals throughout the entire debate.



5.e. Factual errors shall be heavily penalized.




5.f. Main Arguments


Your main arguments will get you the most amount of points. Some tips to scoring highly:




- make your argument flow


- show depth in your analysis


- stick to the topic


- be confident in your arguing


- choose your quotes and how you analyze/comment strategically


- be innovative, think outside the box!


- watch your tone




5.g. Closing Statements

End strong. It needs to correspond with your opening statement as
well as your main argument. Do not present any new ideas in your
concluding post. You can score a total of 5 points here.


6. Point Deductions


7.a. Breaking the Word limit.

You shall be penalised 1 point per every 100 words you go over the
limit of 2000 words. The amount that you go over shall be rounded up
for the nearest 100. E.g. if you go over the limit by 101 words, you
shall be penalised 2 points.


For going below minimum word limit, you shall be directly penalised 10 points, as this shows that you do not have enough arguments to support your point.



7.b. Late posts.

15 minutes late - 1 point


30 minutes late - 1.5. points


60 minutes late - 2 points

For every additional hour after that you shall lose 1 point. If you
still haven't posted after 12 hours you shall automatically receive a
deduction of 7.5 points for your argument.

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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:17 pm

oh my god..what is this?the ten commandments for a debate?y can't we jst have somethn light like someone introducing a topic and then we take sides n give r opinions..and refute the points we disagree with..even something as 'unstructured' and 'disorganised' as this can give rise to a very intellectually stimulating discussion..
I can't really foresee any hands goin up for the judge's post..someone who'll have the patience to read thru all the posts and keep track of the word limit and give appropriate marks..n then there's always the issue of ppl not agreeing wit the judge's opinion..btw how does one conduct a virtual coin toss? Smile..this topic is goin nowhere..sheesh...let's just have a G.D...
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:44 pm

yup..then it wont be a virtual debate...as they have to be very organised, or people would just post one-liners and stupid stuff also. So in order to reduce such problems, we have rules :)

otherwise group discussions are being done in the Discussion Forum, things like SEZ's, ICL, etc...
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:20 pm

Hey guys i am also realllly interested in debating....
In fact am already in the college debate team and have loads to boost about...
Just do count me in whenever u start debating....
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:45 pm

lol...which college are you from?
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:21 pm

hey iam into debating too but the rulez are sooooooooooooooooooo looooooooong man!!!!!!!!
wat gives???
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:37 pm

lol...there can be no debate withuot rules....Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Debating In Your University/College   Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:35 pm

awesome rules.. mr.Arjun.. do count me in fr any kinda debatin event(even on the size of a reply..Wink ..courtsey.. the cpy paste trick) being held.. i hereby declare:
I M INTERESTED!!!cheers
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